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		<title>By: molly</title>
		<link>https://myrobotispregnant.com/2009/05/27/gay-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-13326</link>
		<dc:creator>molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe i missed the point of this post...cuz i thought it was about the viral you tube dream thingie someone might be inventing one of these days... that&#039;s what I&#039;M waiting for.  

course, i do hope gays have the right to marry, live together, get insurance and all the rest of it long before that.


but, when do you think the dream recorder thing is gonna happen?  seriously.  i want one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe i missed the point of this post&#8230;cuz i thought it was about the viral you tube dream thingie someone might be inventing one of these days&#8230; that&#8217;s what I&#8217;M waiting for.  </p>
<p>course, i do hope gays have the right to marry, live together, get insurance and all the rest of it long before that.</p>
<p>but, when do you think the dream recorder thing is gonna happen?  seriously.  i want one.</p>
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		<title>By: Rolston</title>
		<link>https://myrobotispregnant.com/2009/05/27/gay-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-13265</link>
		<dc:creator>Rolston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 05:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure I&#039;m confused, I haven&#039;t read those things since a fourth grade book report.  The Constitution does call for securing &quot;the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves&quot; in the first sentence.  I did twenty seconds of research for that.  Let&#039;s call this one done.  poop-a-loop can take over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m confused, I haven&#8217;t read those things since a fourth grade book report.  The Constitution does call for securing &#8220;the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves&#8221; in the first sentence.  I did twenty seconds of research for that.  Let&#8217;s call this one done.  poop-a-loop can take over.</p>
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		<title>By: poopies</title>
		<link>https://myrobotispregnant.com/2009/05/27/gay-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-13262</link>
		<dc:creator>poopies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh boy,that would negate the straightness right out of me, despite my natural attraction to crotchless things.  Don&#039;t let any prejudice you may have against gay voters, deter you from honestly asking yourself what this really means to you.  We all should commence spriritual growth, but why do we have to do it throught the constitution?  The practical individual of today is a stickler for facts and results.  I used to amuse myself by cynically dissecting the beleifs of gay men and women, But now i may observe people of all races, colors and creeds that are demonstrating a degree of stability, happiness, which I could have sought in the very beginning, without judgement.  Why are you asking me?  I took 7 years of highschool?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh boy,that would negate the straightness right out of me, despite my natural attraction to crotchless things.  Don&#8217;t let any prejudice you may have against gay voters, deter you from honestly asking yourself what this really means to you.  We all should commence spriritual growth, but why do we have to do it throught the constitution?  The practical individual of today is a stickler for facts and results.  I used to amuse myself by cynically dissecting the beleifs of gay men and women, But now i may observe people of all races, colors and creeds that are demonstrating a degree of stability, happiness, which I could have sought in the very beginning, without judgement.  Why are you asking me?  I took 7 years of highschool?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle_s</title>
		<link>https://myrobotispregnant.com/2009/05/27/gay-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-13261</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyle_s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bill of rights is pretty specific in what it deems to be freedoms.  I don&#039;t think gay marriage is in there.  Any chance you&#039;re confusing our Constitution with the Declaration of Independence (Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness)?  Anyhow, I&#039;ll leave the research to you on that one.  I&#039;m much more interested in how pursuing this Poops the gay painter tangent.

Whadda you say, Poopies?  You up for breaking out the crotchless painter&#039;s pants and rainbow drop cloths?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bill of rights is pretty specific in what it deems to be freedoms.  I don&#8217;t think gay marriage is in there.  Any chance you&#8217;re confusing our Constitution with the Declaration of Independence (Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness)?  Anyhow, I&#8217;ll leave the research to you on that one.  I&#8217;m much more interested in how pursuing this Poops the gay painter tangent.</p>
<p>Whadda you say, Poopies?  You up for breaking out the crotchless painter&#8217;s pants and rainbow drop cloths?</p>
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		<title>By: Rolston</title>
		<link>https://myrobotispregnant.com/2009/05/27/gay-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-13260</link>
		<dc:creator>Rolston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW  My roommate moved out a two months ago.  For a trial separation.  Now Chris and his cat David live with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW  My roommate moved out a two months ago.  For a trial separation.  Now Chris and his cat David live with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rolston</title>
		<link>https://myrobotispregnant.com/2009/05/27/gay-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-13259</link>
		<dc:creator>Rolston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 17:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a lazy idealist talking in broad stripes makes it hard to match your arguments Lyle.  Definitely can&#039;t argue that twenty years ago I would have argued for gay marriage.  Sophomore year we were still calling each other faggot.  Gay people weren&#039;t real.  

My main point is, I &lt;b&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/b&gt; think Democracy (and it&#039;s system of popular vote) means we can vote to ban a freedom, but that&#039;s how it is used.  When it happens the Supreme Court is supposed to step in and say, &quot;The will of the people is counter to the will of the Constitution. The people are overruled.&quot;   
&lt;br&gt; If the Cal state constitution didn&#039;t allow bans on gay marriage and they ammend it to include one, our larger federal constitution should step in and prevent that.  Democracy to me means we have freedoms we protect through laws.  Yes, democracy is about free elections where citizens can choose their fate, but our Democracy has a Constitution and Bill of Rights at its core that trumps mob rule.  

Any way, it&#039;s fairly obvious in another generation most if not all states will allow gay marriage, if only for the reason you provide - money. Double income no kids.  Maybe adoption should become mandatory for gays so they don&#039;t have all this extra money to organize politically. Maybe Poops could hire some of his thespian friends from Peter Pan to be the face of his new gay friendly paint company?  Or he could be a bear, wear a leather vest and ride his dirt bike to the clients house and give an estimate for services.  There seems to be more than a few people in this city who adopt a &quot;gay&quot; demeanor or accent in order to stay competitive.  Especially in the design world where a straight man is bottom of the barrel, used to haul furniture and clean up after people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a lazy idealist talking in broad stripes makes it hard to match your arguments Lyle.  Definitely can&#8217;t argue that twenty years ago I would have argued for gay marriage.  Sophomore year we were still calling each other faggot.  Gay people weren&#8217;t real.  </p>
<p>My main point is, I <b>don&#8217;t</b> think Democracy (and it&#8217;s system of popular vote) means we can vote to ban a freedom, but that&#8217;s how it is used.  When it happens the Supreme Court is supposed to step in and say, &#8220;The will of the people is counter to the will of the Constitution. The people are overruled.&#8221;<br />
 If the Cal state constitution didn&#8217;t allow bans on gay marriage and they ammend it to include one, our larger federal constitution should step in and prevent that.  Democracy to me means we have freedoms we protect through laws.  Yes, democracy is about free elections where citizens can choose their fate, but our Democracy has a Constitution and Bill of Rights at its core that trumps mob rule.  </p>
<p>Any way, it&#8217;s fairly obvious in another generation most if not all states will allow gay marriage, if only for the reason you provide &#8211; money. Double income no kids.  Maybe adoption should become mandatory for gays so they don&#8217;t have all this extra money to organize politically. Maybe Poops could hire some of his thespian friends from Peter Pan to be the face of his new gay friendly paint company?  Or he could be a bear, wear a leather vest and ride his dirt bike to the clients house and give an estimate for services.  There seems to be more than a few people in this city who adopt a &#8220;gay&#8221; demeanor or accent in order to stay competitive.  Especially in the design world where a straight man is bottom of the barrel, used to haul furniture and clean up after people.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle_s</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyle_s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 14:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Democracy isn&#039;t supposed to be about popular votes.&quot;

Really?  Seems like a core philosophy, to me.  Majority rules.  I don&#039;t think democracy was ever designed to protect minorities.  What it does allow us to do is make provisions to protect them, when the people want it.

Is it perfect?  Of course not.  Is the majority wrong in this case?  I would say so.  But that doesn&#039;t mean the system is broken.  It means people need to wake up and realize their arguments against gay marriage are irrational.  These things take time.  Can you tell me that 20 years ago you would have fought for gay marriage?  The beauty of our country lies in the freedom to speak our minds which allows for open discussion that leads (eventually) to the right decisions being made.  That&#039;s how we get to the protection of minorities.

What the courts ruled in 2008 is basically that the state couldn&#039;t pass laws limiting marriage to a man and a woman because those laws weren&#039;t backed up by the state constitution.  Basically they were saying that this issue needed to be decided at the constitution level.  Hence, Prop 8 was born.

Marriage is managed at the state level.  That&#039;s not going to change.  All the feds can do is control things related to their benefits.  Unfortunately, they chose to shut out married gays in 1996.

It&#039;s kind of funny to me that New England is leading the progressive movement on this issue and California can&#039;t get out of its own way.  I suppose gay folks may not want to fly across the country to get married but they should have as much if not more disposable income than anyone else in the country.  Maybe New England is making a tourism play for gay couples!  Get all that good gay money up in there to stimulate the local economy.  Maybe they&#039;ll all move up there and Poops can make a killing painting rainbows on their houses!

If you want to play back your dreams, make it happen.  Come to Wisconsin and start working with that group that&#039;s reading minds in Madison.  I was up there last weekend, nice country in the warm month(s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Democracy isn&#8217;t supposed to be about popular votes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really?  Seems like a core philosophy, to me.  Majority rules.  I don&#8217;t think democracy was ever designed to protect minorities.  What it does allow us to do is make provisions to protect them, when the people want it.</p>
<p>Is it perfect?  Of course not.  Is the majority wrong in this case?  I would say so.  But that doesn&#8217;t mean the system is broken.  It means people need to wake up and realize their arguments against gay marriage are irrational.  These things take time.  Can you tell me that 20 years ago you would have fought for gay marriage?  The beauty of our country lies in the freedom to speak our minds which allows for open discussion that leads (eventually) to the right decisions being made.  That&#8217;s how we get to the protection of minorities.</p>
<p>What the courts ruled in 2008 is basically that the state couldn&#8217;t pass laws limiting marriage to a man and a woman because those laws weren&#8217;t backed up by the state constitution.  Basically they were saying that this issue needed to be decided at the constitution level.  Hence, Prop 8 was born.</p>
<p>Marriage is managed at the state level.  That&#8217;s not going to change.  All the feds can do is control things related to their benefits.  Unfortunately, they chose to shut out married gays in 1996.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of funny to me that New England is leading the progressive movement on this issue and California can&#8217;t get out of its own way.  I suppose gay folks may not want to fly across the country to get married but they should have as much if not more disposable income than anyone else in the country.  Maybe New England is making a tourism play for gay couples!  Get all that good gay money up in there to stimulate the local economy.  Maybe they&#8217;ll all move up there and Poops can make a killing painting rainbows on their houses!</p>
<p>If you want to play back your dreams, make it happen.  Come to Wisconsin and start working with that group that&#8217;s reading minds in Madison.  I was up there last weekend, nice country in the warm month(s).</p>
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		<title>By: Rolston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rolston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 09:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyle, will we be able to playback our dreams someday?  I really want that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyle, will we be able to playback our dreams someday?  I really want that.</p>
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		<title>By: Rolston</title>
		<link>https://myrobotispregnant.com/2009/05/27/gay-dreams/comment-page-1/#comment-13253</link>
		<dc:creator>Rolston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 08:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for putting all that work into the comment. You&#039;ve read more than I have. Can I ask a question?  If the court says, as they originally did, that limiting a marriage to a man and woman is wrong, why then should it be put to a popular vote? Democracy isn&#039;t supposed to be about popular votes. It&#039;s supposed to be a system of protection for minorities. Equal rights for all. Equality regardless of monetary or religious influence. The Constitution (the big one) is our guiding legal document. It&#039;s the one that says we have equal rights regardless of what a majority thinks should happen to a minority. If californias state constitution doesn&#039;t afford a citizen that right, you&#039;d think going to the federal level would solve the problem, right?  Wasn&#039;t it the Dred Scott case that proved the Constitution could be ignored for years?  Can you say Gays are treated equally under American law at the federal or state level?  I can&#039;t see an argument for that. So there has been a failure of justice.  I guess they wrote 185 pages because they are lying. The facts don&#039;t take long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for putting all that work into the comment. You&#8217;ve read more than I have. Can I ask a question?  If the court says, as they originally did, that limiting a marriage to a man and woman is wrong, why then should it be put to a popular vote? Democracy isn&#8217;t supposed to be about popular votes. It&#8217;s supposed to be a system of protection for minorities. Equal rights for all. Equality regardless of monetary or religious influence. The Constitution (the big one) is our guiding legal document. It&#8217;s the one that says we have equal rights regardless of what a majority thinks should happen to a minority. If californias state constitution doesn&#8217;t afford a citizen that right, you&#8217;d think going to the federal level would solve the problem, right?  Wasn&#8217;t it the Dred Scott case that proved the Constitution could be ignored for years?  Can you say Gays are treated equally under American law at the federal or state level?  I can&#8217;t see an argument for that. So there has been a failure of justice.  I guess they wrote 185 pages because they are lying. The facts don&#8217;t take long.</p>
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		<title>By: n.d.p.</title>
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		<dc:creator>n.d.p.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 03:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyle,I don&#039;t know you but you said a mouthful. Where are the footnotes and bibliography for that paper?

Rolston, I say take your one year union to the streets though i think it might be better suited as bi-annual...like smog certificates. Check for your writing at a later date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyle,I don&#8217;t know you but you said a mouthful. Where are the footnotes and bibliography for that paper?</p>
<p>Rolston, I say take your one year union to the streets though i think it might be better suited as bi-annual&#8230;like smog certificates. Check for your writing at a later date.</p>
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