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		<title>By: Rolston</title>
		<link>https://myrobotispregnant.com/2008/07/07/domestic-spying-is-for-nazis/comment-page-1/#comment-10609</link>
		<dc:creator>Rolston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Barbara Boxer sent me a nice little apology for not being able to stop the overturning of my Constitutional rights.

&quot;Dear Mr. rolston:

     Thank you for writing to express your opposition to H.R.6304, the FISA Amendments Act of 2008. I share your concerns and regret to inform you that this bill was signed into law on July 10, 2008, one day after Senate passage.

I am disappointed that the Senate voted 69-28 to pass the FISA Amendments Act, wh ich will deny American citizens the opportunity to seek justice in a court of law. Simply put, this law is a fig leaf that attem pts to hide the truth about the Bush Administration&#039;s warrantless surveillance program at the expense of the rights of our citizens.

In an effort to restore balance to this legislation and stand up for the rights of the American people, I proudly co-sponsored the Dodd-Feingold-Leahy ame ndment, which would have struck the section from the bill (Title II) that effectively grants immu nity and blocks the courts from ruling on the legality of this program. Unfortunately, the amendment was rejected 66-32.

I believe it is the re sponsibility of the Congress to provide every tool needed to track down terrorists and protect our citizens. I voted to go after al Q aeda and Osama Bin Laden, and I will continue to support measures to achieve that goal. But we have another responsibility of equal importance - and that is our duty to uphold the Constitution and the rights of our citizens, and this law fails to strike a balance between these important responsibilities.

    Please know that I will continue my efforts to expose the truth about the Bush Administration&#039;s warrantless surveillance program and to protect national security while safeguarding America &#039;s precious civil liberties.&quot;



Dear Mr. rolston:

     Thank you for writing to express your opposition to H.R.6304, the FISA Amendments Act of 2008. I share your concerns and regret to inform you that this bill was signed into law on July 10, 2008, one day after Senate passage.

I am disappointed that the Senate voted 69-28 to pass the FISA Amendments Act, wh ich will deny American citizens the opportunity to seek justice in a court of law. Simply put, this law is a fig leaf that attem pts to hide the truth about the Bush Administration&#039;s warrantless surveillance program at the expense of the rights of our citizens.

In an effort to restore balance to this legislation and stand up for the rights of the American people, I proudly co-sponsored the Dodd-Feingold-Leahy ame ndment, which would have struck the section from the bill (Title II) that effectively grants immu nity and blocks the courts from ruling on the legality of this program. Unfortunately, the amendment was rejected 66-32.

I believe it is the re sponsibility of the Congress to provide every tool needed to track down terrorists and protect our citizens. I voted to go after al Q aeda and Osama Bin Laden, and I will continue to support measures to achieve that goal. But we have another responsibility of equal importance - and that is our duty to uphold the Constitution and the rights of our citizens, and this law fails to strike a balance between these important responsibilities.

    Please know that I will continue my efforts to expose the truth about the Bush Administration&#039;s warrantless surveillance program and to protect national security while safeguarding America &#039;s precious civil liberties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Barbara Boxer sent me a nice little apology for not being able to stop the overturning of my Constitutional rights.</p>
<p>&#8220;Dear Mr. rolston:</p>
<p>     Thank you for writing to express your opposition to H.R.6304, the FISA Amendments Act of 2008. I share your concerns and regret to inform you that this bill was signed into law on July 10, 2008, one day after Senate passage.</p>
<p>I am disappointed that the Senate voted 69-28 to pass the FISA Amendments Act, wh ich will deny American citizens the opportunity to seek justice in a court of law. Simply put, this law is a fig leaf that attem pts to hide the truth about the Bush Administration&#8217;s warrantless surveillance program at the expense of the rights of our citizens.</p>
<p>In an effort to restore balance to this legislation and stand up for the rights of the American people, I proudly co-sponsored the Dodd-Feingold-Leahy ame ndment, which would have struck the section from the bill (Title II) that effectively grants immu nity and blocks the courts from ruling on the legality of this program. Unfortunately, the amendment was rejected 66-32.</p>
<p>I believe it is the re sponsibility of the Congress to provide every tool needed to track down terrorists and protect our citizens. I voted to go after al Q aeda and Osama Bin Laden, and I will continue to support measures to achieve that goal. But we have another responsibility of equal importance &#8211; and that is our duty to uphold the Constitution and the rights of our citizens, and this law fails to strike a balance between these important responsibilities.</p>
<p>    Please know that I will continue my efforts to expose the truth about the Bush Administration&#8217;s warrantless surveillance program and to protect national security while safeguarding America &#8216;s precious civil liberties.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dear Mr. rolston:</p>
<p>     Thank you for writing to express your opposition to H.R.6304, the FISA Amendments Act of 2008. I share your concerns and regret to inform you that this bill was signed into law on July 10, 2008, one day after Senate passage.</p>
<p>I am disappointed that the Senate voted 69-28 to pass the FISA Amendments Act, wh ich will deny American citizens the opportunity to seek justice in a court of law. Simply put, this law is a fig leaf that attem pts to hide the truth about the Bush Administration&#8217;s warrantless surveillance program at the expense of the rights of our citizens.</p>
<p>In an effort to restore balance to this legislation and stand up for the rights of the American people, I proudly co-sponsored the Dodd-Feingold-Leahy ame ndment, which would have struck the section from the bill (Title II) that effectively grants immu nity and blocks the courts from ruling on the legality of this program. Unfortunately, the amendment was rejected 66-32.</p>
<p>I believe it is the re sponsibility of the Congress to provide every tool needed to track down terrorists and protect our citizens. I voted to go after al Q aeda and Osama Bin Laden, and I will continue to support measures to achieve that goal. But we have another responsibility of equal importance &#8211; and that is our duty to uphold the Constitution and the rights of our citizens, and this law fails to strike a balance between these important responsibilities.</p>
<p>    Please know that I will continue my efforts to expose the truth about the Bush Administration&#8217;s warrantless surveillance program and to protect national security while safeguarding America &#8216;s precious civil liberties.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle_s</title>
		<link>https://myrobotispregnant.com/2008/07/07/domestic-spying-is-for-nazis/comment-page-1/#comment-10567</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyle_s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s only one thing left to do now.  You have to read the bill yourself and decide who is snowing you.</description>
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		<title>By: Rolston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rolston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I don&#039;t understand this stuff at all.  Here&#039;s an email response from my Senator...


Dear Mr. Rolston:

 

I write this in response to your communication indicating your concerns on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA) now before the Senate. This bill has passed the House of Representatives.

 

This legislation contains multiple sections, including one that deals specifically with liability for telecommunications companies. However, the primary intent of this new bill is to modernize our intelligence gathering capacity. The technology and communications industries have seen vast changes in the past thirty years since FISA was first written in 1978. This has changed the way surveillance is conducted, and the original law cannot adequately address these procedures. This is precisely why FISA needs to be modernized.

           

It is important to understand the consequences if the Senate does not pass this bill. We would either have to extend the temporary surveillance bill passed last August - which should not happen - or allow surveillance on certain foreign targets to expire which would lay the Nation bare and decrease our ability to identify and protect against terrorist threats. Neither of these options is acceptable.

 

I strongly believe that this bill is substantially better than the version the Senate passed in February 2008, which I opposed. It is also a major improvement from the Protect America Act that passed in August 2007, which had few privacy protections and was never intended to be a permanent solution. This bill:

 

oIncludes provisions I authored that make clear that FISA is the exclusive (or only) authority for conducting surveillance inside the United States. This is crucial as it requires that all future Presidents must act only within the law. FISA would be the only legal authority for conducting surveillance on Americans for intelligence purposes, and only legislation that specifically provides wiretapping authority in the future would be an exception to FISA.

 

oRequires the government to obtain a warrant before surveillance can begin. This applies to all Americans - anywhere in the world. The Protect America Act allowed surveillance for up to six months before getting a warrant. This bill ends all warrantless surveillance of U.S. persons. In this sense it is precedent setting.

 

oBans reverse targeting, which was a concern under the Protect America Act. Reverse targeting would allow the government to collect the contents of telephone calls and e-mails of an American by conducting surveillance on the people with whom they communicate. This is prohibited in this bill.

 

oRequires that the government implement procedures approved by the Court for minimization.  If an American&#039;s communication is incidentally caught up in electronic surveillance while the Government is targeting someone else, minimization protects that person&#039;s private information. This has been a hallmark of FISA for 30 years, but court review and approval of minimization procedures was not included in the Protect America Act. It is here.

 

oRequires the government to receive a warrant to conduct surveillance on an American outside of the United States. This means that Americans&#039; privacy rights are protected everywhere around the world. A court warrant has never been required outside the United States before; this would be the strongest protection ever.

 

I understand your concern regarding Title II of this bill, which creates a process that may result in immunity for telecommunications companies that are alleged to have provided assistance to the Government. I agree that this is not the best approach to the current legal challenges to these companies. Earlier this year, I authored an amendment that would require court review of the legality of these companies&#039; alleged actions. Under my proposal, cases against the companies would only be dismissed if the Court found that they acted legally. I continue to believe this is the right approach. I have joined as a co-sponsor on an amendment which accomplishes this, and will vote for it when it is able to come to the floor.

 

There may be amendments offered to the FISA legislation to strip or modify the telecom immunity provisions. Know that I will support any that I believe improve the current bill.

 

Bottom line: this FISA legislation, while not perfect, would bring intelligence activities back under U.S. law. It provides significant improvement in oversight and accountability of our intelligence collection programs while still giving the intelligence community the tools needed to keep our Nation safe. And, it provides the strongest privacy protections to U.S. persons in history.

 

In conclusion, I have served on the Intelligence Committee for seven years and I take the responsibility extremely seriously. If there is no bill, our Nation goes bare in mid-August, unless the Protect America Act, which does not offer, even remotely, the privacy protections for U.S. persons that are included in this bill, is extended. Additionally, the President - any President - cannot enact a program outside of this law in the future.

 

I hope this helps you understand my concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I don&#8217;t understand this stuff at all.  Here&#8217;s an email response from my Senator&#8230;</p>
<p>Dear Mr. Rolston:</p>
<p>I write this in response to your communication indicating your concerns on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA) now before the Senate. This bill has passed the House of Representatives.</p>
<p>This legislation contains multiple sections, including one that deals specifically with liability for telecommunications companies. However, the primary intent of this new bill is to modernize our intelligence gathering capacity. The technology and communications industries have seen vast changes in the past thirty years since FISA was first written in 1978. This has changed the way surveillance is conducted, and the original law cannot adequately address these procedures. This is precisely why FISA needs to be modernized.</p>
<p>It is important to understand the consequences if the Senate does not pass this bill. We would either have to extend the temporary surveillance bill passed last August &#8211; which should not happen &#8211; or allow surveillance on certain foreign targets to expire which would lay the Nation bare and decrease our ability to identify and protect against terrorist threats. Neither of these options is acceptable.</p>
<p>I strongly believe that this bill is substantially better than the version the Senate passed in February 2008, which I opposed. It is also a major improvement from the Protect America Act that passed in August 2007, which had few privacy protections and was never intended to be a permanent solution. This bill:</p>
<p>oIncludes provisions I authored that make clear that FISA is the exclusive (or only) authority for conducting surveillance inside the United States. This is crucial as it requires that all future Presidents must act only within the law. FISA would be the only legal authority for conducting surveillance on Americans for intelligence purposes, and only legislation that specifically provides wiretapping authority in the future would be an exception to FISA.</p>
<p>oRequires the government to obtain a warrant before surveillance can begin. This applies to all Americans &#8211; anywhere in the world. The Protect America Act allowed surveillance for up to six months before getting a warrant. This bill ends all warrantless surveillance of U.S. persons. In this sense it is precedent setting.</p>
<p>oBans reverse targeting, which was a concern under the Protect America Act. Reverse targeting would allow the government to collect the contents of telephone calls and e-mails of an American by conducting surveillance on the people with whom they communicate. This is prohibited in this bill.</p>
<p>oRequires that the government implement procedures approved by the Court for minimization.  If an American&#8217;s communication is incidentally caught up in electronic surveillance while the Government is targeting someone else, minimization protects that person&#8217;s private information. This has been a hallmark of FISA for 30 years, but court review and approval of minimization procedures was not included in the Protect America Act. It is here.</p>
<p>oRequires the government to receive a warrant to conduct surveillance on an American outside of the United States. This means that Americans&#8217; privacy rights are protected everywhere around the world. A court warrant has never been required outside the United States before; this would be the strongest protection ever.</p>
<p>I understand your concern regarding Title II of this bill, which creates a process that may result in immunity for telecommunications companies that are alleged to have provided assistance to the Government. I agree that this is not the best approach to the current legal challenges to these companies. Earlier this year, I authored an amendment that would require court review of the legality of these companies&#8217; alleged actions. Under my proposal, cases against the companies would only be dismissed if the Court found that they acted legally. I continue to believe this is the right approach. I have joined as a co-sponsor on an amendment which accomplishes this, and will vote for it when it is able to come to the floor.</p>
<p>There may be amendments offered to the FISA legislation to strip or modify the telecom immunity provisions. Know that I will support any that I believe improve the current bill.</p>
<p>Bottom line: this FISA legislation, while not perfect, would bring intelligence activities back under U.S. law. It provides significant improvement in oversight and accountability of our intelligence collection programs while still giving the intelligence community the tools needed to keep our Nation safe. And, it provides the strongest privacy protections to U.S. persons in history.</p>
<p>In conclusion, I have served on the Intelligence Committee for seven years and I take the responsibility extremely seriously. If there is no bill, our Nation goes bare in mid-August, unless the Protect America Act, which does not offer, even remotely, the privacy protections for U.S. persons that are included in this bill, is extended. Additionally, the President &#8211; any President &#8211; cannot enact a program outside of this law in the future.</p>
<p>I hope this helps you understand my concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyle_s</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyle_s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the alarmists have you alarmed, Jon.  That&#039;s not to say you shouldn&#039;t be.  I can&#039;t find much to like about the proposed amendments to the FISA bill.

However, the bill actually establishes that the executive office CANNOT perform wiretaps of citizens without a warrant issued by the FISA court or through normal domestic channels.  Of course, it gives the executive office a full week to submit the application and doesn&#039;t force the executive office to discard irrelevant information, even if the subject is deemed not to be a threat.  The old interval was 72 hours.  I don&#039;t understand why the government would need more time to file an application, other than that the government is slow as dirt.

I don&#039;t understand why a law has to be passed to protect the phone companies from lawsuits.  That seems like a matter to be ironed out in the courts.  However, can you really fault the telecom industry to caving into to governmental pressure to help out after 9/11?  To me, it&#039;s the administration that should shoulder the blame for that invasion of privacy.  They should have just gotten a freaking warrant.

Using computer algorithms to monitor electronic communications is a spooky concept, indeed.  Even if it&#039;s only used to generate a list of interesting people for background checks and eventual warranted wiretaps, is it really anything more than a high-tech approach to McCarthyism?  Who audits these algorithms to make sure they&#039;re any more reliable than heresay?

Of course, it&#039;s not like people are jumping up and down in outrage when Google magically tailors the ads on their GMail program to match the content of the messages people send and receive.  I guess at least their motives are more transparent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the alarmists have you alarmed, Jon.  That&#8217;s not to say you shouldn&#8217;t be.  I can&#8217;t find much to like about the proposed amendments to the FISA bill.</p>
<p>However, the bill actually establishes that the executive office CANNOT perform wiretaps of citizens without a warrant issued by the FISA court or through normal domestic channels.  Of course, it gives the executive office a full week to submit the application and doesn&#8217;t force the executive office to discard irrelevant information, even if the subject is deemed not to be a threat.  The old interval was 72 hours.  I don&#8217;t understand why the government would need more time to file an application, other than that the government is slow as dirt.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why a law has to be passed to protect the phone companies from lawsuits.  That seems like a matter to be ironed out in the courts.  However, can you really fault the telecom industry to caving into to governmental pressure to help out after 9/11?  To me, it&#8217;s the administration that should shoulder the blame for that invasion of privacy.  They should have just gotten a freaking warrant.</p>
<p>Using computer algorithms to monitor electronic communications is a spooky concept, indeed.  Even if it&#8217;s only used to generate a list of interesting people for background checks and eventual warranted wiretaps, is it really anything more than a high-tech approach to McCarthyism?  Who audits these algorithms to make sure they&#8217;re any more reliable than heresay?</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s not like people are jumping up and down in outrage when Google magically tailors the ads on their GMail program to match the content of the messages people send and receive.  I guess at least their motives are more transparent.</p>
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		<title>By: Rolston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rolston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I called I got a nice voice recording saying the lines were busy so I sent an email instead. (hopefully the entire state is calling to remind Ms. Feinstein how to vote) You can email too, it&#039;s easier than talking on the phone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I called I got a nice voice recording saying the lines were busy so I sent an email instead. (hopefully the entire state is calling to remind Ms. Feinstein how to vote) You can email too, it&#8217;s easier than talking on the phone.</p>
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